Cedars, your work recently has been astounding. Because of that, your profile may rise. Your comments on this board were already quoted on a JW apologist website. I am just being extra cautious. I don't want anyone looking for the "truth about 'The Truth'" to be turned off by an out-of-context quote.
Franklin Massey
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It's official, the internet IS the Watchtower's nemesis!
by cedars ini have been inspired recently by some of the comments on this forum regarding the society having reached a "tipping point".
it's been observed that, despite the overwhelming weight of evidence that the society is nothing more than a damaging cult, the number of witnesses continues to increase, albeit gradually.
the latest figures i have available are those in the 2011 yearbook, showing a global 2.5% increase between 2009 and 2010.. as we all know, the internet is steadily rising in accessibility (or "penetration") around the world, and it provides a wonderful resource for those who are curious about joining the faith, helping such ones to quickly identify precisely how warped the teachings of the watch tower society really are.
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It's official, the internet IS the Watchtower's nemesis!
by cedars ini have been inspired recently by some of the comments on this forum regarding the society having reached a "tipping point".
it's been observed that, despite the overwhelming weight of evidence that the society is nothing more than a damaging cult, the number of witnesses continues to increase, albeit gradually.
the latest figures i have available are those in the 2011 yearbook, showing a global 2.5% increase between 2009 and 2010.. as we all know, the internet is steadily rising in accessibility (or "penetration") around the world, and it provides a wonderful resource for those who are curious about joining the faith, helping such ones to quickly identify precisely how warped the teachings of the watch tower society really are.
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Franklin Massey
Cedars, interesting work here. I think these numbers would apply to religion in general too.
One comment struck me as off balance: "Basically, the more ignorant a country's populace is, the more fertile hunting grounds this will be for the local publishers." I am certain you didn't mean to call the population ignorant in general. Given the theme of the post I will take it to mean that they may be unaware of the true story of the Watchtower Organization. Perhaps wording it this way would avoid confusion and free the post of what could be called unkind language: Basically, the less access to the internet and other sources of mass media a country has, the more fertile hunting grounds this will be for the local publishers.
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You All Need To Read This New Letter Sent To All Conregations In Victoria Australia About Police Checks For Elders
by Hairyhegoat inpolice minister peter ryan has written a letter to mr unthank advising that jw's are now applying, in mass, for the wwc in victoria.
to little to late.
criminal charges still stand and cannot be backdated!
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"Mentally diseased" article to be published in The Independent tomorrow
by cedars inhi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
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Nice contribution, Scholar.
I've seen some of the JWs rationalizing that posting on this article does not conflict with the admonition in the Watchtower for the following reasons:
- The website is not an apostate website (or blog), rather a news journal.
- The article seems to be balanced and quoted the Watchtower magazine accurately.
- Apostates are twisting the article so we must defend our faith to the public.
- We as JWs don't want to be misunderstood.
It's funny, though, because at the meeting where this article was discussed, several JWs commented on the danger of even reading the comment sections of ANY articles related to JWs.
Also, as Scholar pointed out, the JWs that are posting on these articles are displaying attitudes quite similar to those who choose to leave the Organization. Many on this board are here because they realized that to be a JW, they have to obey the Governing Body, despite their own personal convictions. Not wanting to be hypocrites, or live a lie, they decide that the JW religion is not for them. As for JWs interacting with apostates, we have clear examples of making the religion fit the person, when it should be the other way around. It is ridiculous to practice willful disobedience to the Governing Body while trying to justify the rightness of the JW religion.
Watching this play out proves to me that this religion is definitely not worth my time and energy.
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Some JWs are exhibiting signs of violence because of WT hate speech. Read the threat to me and others posted at Topix yesterday
by AndersonsInfo inyesterday, i opened a topix account so i could post the information about watch tower representatives attending the political ocse meeting in poland for two weeks and the proof that they are an ngo.
one of the posters responded with these words: .
"barbs-info," eh?
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Barb, I'm sorry to hear this. I wish you the best.
To all posters on JWN, we need to remember not to be guilty of the same type of aggressive, hateful, violent speech. There are posters here who, for whatever reasons, say some incredibly offensive and shockingly aggressive things against JWs and the WT Org on this board. JWs and ExJWs are both getting attention right now. The spotlight is going to be directed at both camps. This is where we need to be better. Yes, many of us have been hurt. Yes, our frustration and anger may be validated. But let's try to take the higher road. Let's not live up to the ridiculous stereotype that the WT has created for ExJWs. Let's not scare off those curious folks, JWs and nonJWs alike, who may be drawn to this site after hearing of the recent buzz in the media.
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Like him or not, Richard Dawkins is helping spread the word about JWs
by Franklin Massey inhttp://richarddawkins.net/articles/643264-war-of-words-breaks-out-among-jehovah-s-witnesses.
http://twitter.com/#!/rdfrs.
http://twitter.com/#!/richarddawkins.
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http://richarddawkins.net/articles/643264-war-of-words-breaks-out-among-jehovah-s-witnesses
http://twitter.com/#!/RichardDawkins
It will be interesting to watch the comments.
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"Mentally diseased" article to be published in The Independent tomorrow
by cedars inhi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
cedars.
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Richard Dawkins just tweeted the article (he has 240,000+ followers!), his foundation's twitter feed picked it up (20,000+) and it's featured on his website: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/643264-war-of-words-breaks-out-among-jehovah-s-witnesses
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2011 Global Survey of Jehovah's Witnesses
by cedars inif you are visiting this site for the first time, or for the first time in a long while, i would appreciate if you could click on the following link and participate in the 2011 global survey of jehovah's witnesses.
both active jehovah's witnesses and former jehovah's witnesses around the world are invited to participate anonymously, and the results will be forwarded to the governing body and world's media.. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/t7zm5zc.
this thread will be updated with the results of the survey (for the time being at least) should you be interested.. in its first 3 days, the survey collected close to 400 responses.
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Franklin Massey
What Franklin has written could very well have applied to me at an earlier time.
Me too. I speak from experience.
Cedars, this board is one of the premier places on the web for those questioning, doubting, coping with, healing from and exiting the Watchtower Organization. Despite your frustration, I think there really is a place for you here.
Big ideas take time. Big projects take time. Temper that zeal and passion with a little bit of patience and forgiveness and you'll make waves. I wish you the best.
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2011 Global Survey of Jehovah's Witnesses
by cedars inif you are visiting this site for the first time, or for the first time in a long while, i would appreciate if you could click on the following link and participate in the 2011 global survey of jehovah's witnesses.
both active jehovah's witnesses and former jehovah's witnesses around the world are invited to participate anonymously, and the results will be forwarded to the governing body and world's media.. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/t7zm5zc.
this thread will be updated with the results of the survey (for the time being at least) should you be interested.. in its first 3 days, the survey collected close to 400 responses.
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Franklin Massey
Cedars, I admire what you are trying to do. That being said, don't be so sensitive. When things are going your way on this forum, you're fine. When someone challenges you, or, says something that is just plain ignorant, you get so incredibly defensive and the thread then turns into you trying to justify your position at any cost. I think you have some decent ideas and the motivation needed to see your plans through. But your quickness in getting your feathers ruffled, coupled with your insistance on making sure everyone knows that someone complimented you on bringing intelligence to the board and that you have such good ideas, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
If your ideas are that good, people will respond without you reminding them how good your ideas are. Don't boast about your strengths in an attempt to defend yourself. It makes your strengths appear weaker. Just do what you believe in and ignore any distractions that get in your way.
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Special day Last talk "No formula"
by MommieTiger inthis weekend at our special assembly day, let gods will take place the final talk was a head shaker.... the bethel speaker was quite entertaining when he joked @ the shortcomings of the elders.
he also made us laugh with the comment "we were told the end of the system is right around the corner, but we've found its been more than that, we've been around the blocks a few times.
" he told the young ones to make the truth their own by researching in the wtbts publication (only).
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Franklin Massey
Welcome to the board!